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Rory Steyn sits down with Chuck and Chris to reflect on his career, including his time as one of President Nelson Mandela's security team leaders.  From a young boy to his current role as co-founder of NSA Global Security Consultants’, we discuss his career and perspectives as an observer and participant to historical racial change. It is a captivating discussion that includes everything working across divides to internal and external threat assessment to accomplish a protective mission for one of the greatest leaders in history in a period of great transition. Join the conversation at protectiontalk@outlook.com