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In this episode, we delve into the fascinating world of esotericism with Joe, also known as ordinary Joe. Joe shares his personal journey and his deep interest in philosophy, particularly in the intersection of Christian mysticism, Hermeticism, and esoteric Christianity. We explore the connections between these ancient traditions and delve into the concept of inner stillness and equanimity as a pathway to spiritual experiences. Joe highlights the importance of the zodiac in his spiritual practice and how it can be used to create a unified force that leads to void, stillness, and ultimately prayer. We also discuss the significance of the Virgin Mary in Christian spirituality and her role as an empty vessel for divine manifestation. Joe emphasizes the importance of identification and communion with God, and shares the transformative power of the three transformations: breathing in vital energy, breathing in astral energy, and generating mental energy before releasing into void. Join us for this insightful and thought-provoking conversation on the profound teachings of Christian mysticism, Hermeticism, and the cultivation of inner stillness.