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Episode 12 features a legend from the shooting world Jerry Miculek, and co-hosted by one of the best in the business Tony Cowden. Jerry is a 2 time overall IPSC revolver world champion, a 7 time 3-Gun National champion, and a 4 time national USPSA multigun champion. Jerry holds over a 100 national and world titles, and has been a contender in every discipline he's competed in for over 30 years,  Jerry recently surpassed 1 million youtube subscribers, showing his ability to succeed off the range as well.  CJ and Tony sit down with Jerry and discuss issues facing the gun community, as well as society as a whole.  This episode covers success on the range as well as life, and opens the door into some of Jerry's success.  Jerry doesn't hold back, and discusses his opinion on modern times, and the influence of things like 'gun bunnies'.  Find out what Jerry means when he says "There isn't right or wrong, just winning and losing." This episode was truly an honor for the Empty Brass podcast, having two of the most respected shooters having a genuine discussion about the industry they both operate in.You can find Jerry and Tony on Instagram at@jerrymiculek@tony_cowden