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Today's episode was a live podcast episode for Ari's Take Academy students with guests Rogét Chahayed and his manager Greg Katz. Rogét is a Grammy-nominated producer and songwriter whose songs have sold over 30 million copies. He's worked with some of the biggest names in the business, including Halsey, Travis Scott, Drake, Miguel, G-Eazy, Ke$ha, Calvin Harris, Carly Rae Jepsen, and more. We got into both the production and business sides. We discussed producer points, splits, songwriter credits, publishing, and how to get a publishing deal. Rogét also gives great advice to aspiring songwriters and producers on how to get started. This podcast was live for Ari's Take Academy students. At the end of the conversation, they were able to ask Rogét and Greg questions. -- Quick links: 2:45 - How Rogét went from studying classical music to working with Dr Dre 8:04 - About Rogét's first production 11:00 - How Greg started managing Rogét 13:45 - Being under credited and what that was like 16:35 - Advice to artists and producers on how to protect themselves from being under credited and screwed 21:25 - What's the difference between a songwriter and producer?  24:04 - When do you discuss splits? 27:50 - Breaking down the producer point system 30:08 - Is it more common to get an upfront producer fee or a backend royalty at Rogét's level?  35:20 - Breaking down Rogét's publishing deal with Kobalt 40:11 - Pointers to songwriters when looking for a publisher/publishing deal 44:30 - Student questions 58:28 - What it means to Rogét and Greg to make it in the new music business -- Connect with Ari’s Take: Website: https://aristake.com Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/ Connect with Ari Herstand: Website: https://ariherstand.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand Connect with Rogét Chahayed: Twitter: https://twitter.com/RogetChahayed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rogetchahayed/   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.