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Today my guests are Malaysian singer Yuna, Ben Willis, and Carlo Fox, the founders of indie-pop!, a management company based out of Los Angeles. This is the first time I've had a conversation with three people at once for the show. Yuna was coming to us from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and Ben and Carlo tuned in from Los Angeles. Yuna is an incredibly talented artist. She's done collaborations with Tyler, the Creator, Pharrell, Usher, G-Eazy, and the list goes on. We dig into how she got her start on Myspace to now being an independent artist in 2020, what it looks like, release strategy, and who the new gatekeepers are. Ben and Carlo have been in the industry for decades, and they talk about what radio looked like and what it looks like now. Yuna was signed to a major label and now she's independent. We also discuss how they approach music videos, playlist promotion, and who handles what. -- Quick links: 2:50 - Being in Malaysia during quarantine and what it's like 10:25 - How Ben and Carlo connected and discovered Yuna 15:25 - indie-pop!'s first client Dev and The Cataracs 18:30 - What was the focus when setting up songwriting sessions and getting a label deal? 21:02 - Transitioning away from the Verve Records label and working with Tyler, the Creator and G-Eazy 27:53 - Setting up writing sessions when Yuna first moved to Los Angeles 32:05 - What Yuna thought of the writing sessions when she first moved to Los Angeles 34:36 - Who's handling what the label typically handles (promotion, release strategy, etc) now that Yuna's independent?  44:20 - How important is radio nowadays? 44:25 - What does the release strategy look like in 2020?  54:00 - Who are the gatekeepers in 2020? 59:40 - When you're releasing a new single, what are the conversations about the story like? How do you tell the story?  1:00:41 - The story behind "Stay Where You Are" 1:05:45 - What does it mean to make it in the new music business?  -- Connect with Ari’s Take: Website: https://aristake.com Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/ Connect with Ari Herstand: Website: https://ariherstand.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand Connect with Yuna:  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yunamusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/yunamusic Instagram: See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.