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In this episode, Danielle sat down with author, journalist, and podcaster Jo Piazza, to talk all about the importance of hard conversations in relationships (romantic and platonic) and why we need to stop avoiding them. The two of them discuss Jo's new book, We Are Not Like Them, which Jo co-wrote with her friend, Christine Pride. The story follows tan interracial friendship which is tested in many ways when one of their husbands (a police officer), shoots a black teenage boy. Danielle asks Jo all about the writing process and how nerve-wracking it must have been to tackle such an intensely polarizing topic. They also discuss why this was such a topic to explore head on no matter how uncomfortable, and how the timing played a huge role. Danielle and Jo also talk about Jo's podcast, Under The Influence, and how Jo is now delving into the complexities of social media and how it affects women especially, and why these platforms are such a mixture of positives and negatives. According to Jo, we need to talk about all of these truths in society, no matter how much it makes us nervous and uncomfortable. You do not need to have read Jo Piazza's books or listened to her podcasts to enjoy this episode. However, after listening, we're pretty sure you'll want to.

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