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Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart for a wide-ranging discussion that includes his long DOJ career and why he hasn’t written a book since leaving public service, whether police departments suffer from systemic racism, reports that he suggested wearing a wire to record President Trump, and of course, the critical decisions points and controversies around Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Words Matter will become part of the CAFE Insider membership product in the coming weeks. Become a member: www.cafe.com/words Sign up to receive the weekly CAFE Brief newsletter which includes analysis by Elie Honig, links to new content, and more: www.cafe.com/brief See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices