Director Ava DuVernay on the Making of "13th"

Ava DuVernay is a filmmaking force of nature. Her feature film, "Selma" won an Oscar nomination for Best Picture. And "13th," her brilliant documentary about the amendment that only pretends to abolish slavery, is shaking up audiences in theaters and on Netflix. Don't miss Ava's take on the myth of racial equality in America and the power she imbues in her version of Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On" that ends our show. What's going on is Ava DuVernay, the creator of "Queen Sugar" on the Oprah Winfrey Network and the first African-American woman to step into blockbuster territory by directing the upcoming Disney epic, "A Wrinkle in Time." Discover more ABC podcasts at http://www.abcnewspodcasts.com

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