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How had Jundo and Kirk never addressed this, the most basic of questions? And it's not a trick question. "Once you are on the cushion, it is Buddha's butt on the cushion." Treeleaf Zendo (https://www.treeleaf.org) Zen (Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen) Zencastr (https://zencastr.com) Shikantaza: The Non-Benefits of Zazen (https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?18965-Shikantaza-The-Non-Benefits-of-Zazen) The Zen Master's Dance (https://amzn.to/3fNBxLW) Realizing Genjokoan: The Key to Dogen's Shobogenzo (https://amzn.to/3AsW0gZ) Theme music by Kiku Day (http://www.kikuday.com). To get in touch, send an email to podcast@zen-of-everything.com (mailto:podcast@zen-of-everything.com). If you like the podcast, please subscribe in iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/the-next-track/id1116242606) or your favorite podcast app, and please rate the podcast.