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Orange County has received a lot of national attention regarding the coronavirus, and none of it positive. Cities have sued California Gov. Gavin Newsom for shutting down beaches. Protesters by the thousands have gathered, against local rules, with no attempt to socially distance. Businesses have opened, daring authorities to swoop in and stop them. Meanwhile, COVID 19 cases continue to climb. Our guest is Orange County Supervisor Lisa Bartlett.

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