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In this episode of the ArchiTECHt show, Derrick Harris speaks with Brendan Burns, one of the creators of the hugely popular Kubernetes technology, and current director of engineering for Microsoft's Azure Container Service. Burns details Microsoft's current container offerings and vision; why container technologies will remake both infrastructure and application development; and the process of turning Kubernetes from a mere idea into one of the world's most popular open source communities.

In the news segment, Harris and co-host Barb Darrow (Fortune) discuss AI head Andrew Ng's departure from Baidu, and what it's like for Docker to live in the shadow of Kubernetes. They also recap IBM's big cloud conference and try to wade through the marketing to determine what's for real with Big Blue.