014: Depression, Anxiety, and Bipolar Disorder with Podcaster and Performer Paige Fockler
Paige Fockler is a performer and podcaster who lives with depression, anxiety, and bipolar disorder. She is the host of Greetings From Depression, a podcast in which she interviews individuals who live with mental illness, and aims to create an environment in which discussions about mental health are acceptable, productive, and completely de-stigmatized. In this episode, she talks about her personal struggles, distinguishes between bipolar I and II, and tells us what being an “oversharer” means to her; the fear of not being believed by health professionals, shame, and making it OK. Join us as Paige shares… - when she first noticed she was experiencing manic episodes - how her family (and her mom, in particular) is her main support system - that the boundaries of her relationship with her empathetic health advocate (her mom) can be blurry; as such, she doesn’t always share everything with her - that she wasn’t diagnosed with bipolar II until she was in her 30s; but she was diagnosed with general depression in her late teen years - the relief that comes along with diagnosis - that she has to be physical to cope with her symptoms in order to avoid her condition manifesting in anxiety - the generational role the Internet has played in her diagnosis and treatment, particularly in the way it has enabled her to do research on her condition - that her anxiety in healthcare stems from a fear that practitioners will not believe her - the stigma associated with conversations about mental health - the role gender – and gender roles – plays in her emotional experiences, and the lack of shame she’s always felt about sharing - the accommodations she’s made for herself in professional environments - the greatest bugbear of mental illness: when people’s reactions are to feel “sorry” for her or to judge - why she’s an “oversharer” – because she doesn’t want to be alone - that she needs structure to cope with symptoms - the importance of empathy - that she had to learn the difference between “sharing” and “oversharing” - how comedy is a natural outlet for her - why she doesn’t have a definitive opinion of suicide - how journaling has helped her - that her superpower is being empathetic and being able to tell if someone is depressed – almost instantly - that it’s important we understand how others cope, and support them – and that we remove stigma and normalize these support behaviors - support apps she recommends: MoodNotes, TalkSpace, and Stigma - how she manages shopping addiction, and when she realized it was a trigger for manic episodes