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This was a highly anticipated episode as Mike and Cole are joined by the Dr. Eric Helms and Dr. Cliff Harvey. We would like to thank Cliff for once again joining us on the show in addition to welcoming Eric for the first time! You can follow and support Cliff at:https://www.cliffharvey.com/The Carb-Appropriate Podcast:http://www.cliffharvey.com/podcast/Twitter: @CarbAppropriateIG: @cliffdoggydogYou can follow and support Eric at: https://3dmusclejourney.com/3D Muscle Journey Podcast:https://3dmusclejourney.com/podcast/IG: @helms3dmj a @ironculturepodcastThe Debate:1. Setting Fat to a Minimum Threshold2. Preference for Carbohydrate Intake Amongst Athletes of Different Regions (U.S.A Compared to UK and New Zealand)? 3. Does Insulin Sensitivity Play a Role? An in Depth Discussion4. Training Volume and Carbohydrate Requirements5. Experimentation with Transitioning an Athlete to a Modified Ketogenic Approach During Contest Prep; Are There Any Unique Benefits?6. The Potential Dark Side of Refeeds: Psychological Repercussions  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/themusclememoirs)