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In this episode, we hung out with Robin and Roxane Clediere. They're a pair of French designers who not only are married, but work together on design projects. We discussed working together as a couple, joining Facebook, and moving from a small town in France to San Francisco. If you missed it, we recently announced Spec, a new podcast network for designers and developers and our first new show, Immutable! We hope you'll check it out and follow @specfm and @immutablefm on Twitter for new shows and updates! If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm! Sponsors: Code School Hired Roxane on the Web: Website Twitter Dribbble Medium Exposure Robin on the Web Website Twitter Dribbble Show Notes: 4:30 - Introductions Limoges, France 7:00 - Joining Facebook 10:00 - Working together as a couple, getting visas, and side projects 52 Burgers Marlowe Burger Bar People Over Heroes Roxane's illustration style 21:30 - Getting started in design a working with large design teams Les Avignons 365 Awesome Designers Geoff Teehan Jon Lax Christophe Tauziet Claire Tauziet Sebastien Gabriel Jean-Marc Denis Sebastien and Jean-Marc's episode Tim Van Damme 37:00 - Launching a product at Facebook Cemre Güngör Branch Framer Quartz Composer See First Zuck 45:00 - Design Tools Marvel Chantal Jandard Mo' Tools, Mo' Problems Marc Edwards Mule Design Mike Essl Marc's Response Spec Slack Team Grunt Gulp Keynote Prototyping Principle Daniel Hooper Principle Mirror for iOS 55:00 - Startups vs Agencies 8 Reasons to Turn Down That Startup Job Luke Cage a Iron Fist