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This week we caught up with Kristy Tillman, a former designer at IDEO who now leads the design charge at Society of Grownups. We had a great time chatting across a huge range of topics, from diversity in tech to meatspace user onboarding! If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly! Sponsors: Weebly (and their Dribbble team) Hover (use coupon code "thatshouldbeaplugin" to save 10% on your first purchase) Kristy Tillman on the Web: Twitter Website Society of Grownups Detroit Water Project Show Notes: 00:00 - We catch up with Kristy about what she's working on Society of Grownups IDEO Detroit Water Project 07:00 - We explore some of Kristy's work in helping marginalized communities, including why there's less diversity in tech NY Times: Women and Minorities as Targets of Attack Online Twitter Apple Facebook Google Youth Design Eddie Opara Jared Erondu 15:30 - Kristy adds context to explaining why there are fewer prominent female designers The Confidence Code Lean In Satya Nadella: Women, Don't Ask for a Raise Imposter syndrome 19:00 - We circled back around to talk about Kristy's current work at Society of Grownups Society of Grownups Dan Cassaro Erik Marinovich 36:30 - Kristy explains some of the challenges in hiring for designers and developers on the East Coast Christopher Michon