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Kate and Doree discuss the value of small talk and creaming one’s bod, celebrate some big accomplishments, and try out vegetarian recipes. Then they welcome New York Times best-selling author Elizabeth Gilbert. She discusses dancing every day as self-care, writing City of Girls while grieving the loss of her partner, and encouraging people to reframe the narrative of fear and harness their creativity. To leave a voicemail for a future mini-ep, call 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. This episode is sponsored by: PHLUR - Go to phlur.com and use promo code FOREVER35 to get 20% off your first custom PHLUR sample set. ThirdLove - Get 15% off your first order when you go to thirdlove.com/forever. LOLA - For 40% off all subscriptions, visit mylola.com and use promo code FOREVER35. Flamingo - Get your Flamingo Bare Bundle for just $24 with free shipping when you go to shopflamingo.com/forever35. Rothy’s - For free shipping and free exchanges and returns visit rothys.com/forever35. Care/of - Get 25% off your first order of personalized Care/of vitamins, go to takecareof.com and enter FOREVER35 at checkout. Theme music by Riot.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.