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How do you care for yourself during a divorce? This week, Jackie Johnson, host of the Natch Beaut podcast, joins Kate in the guest host spot, and details all the self-care practices she's implemented in the wake of her marriage ending. From swimming with sharks, to meditation, to indulging in body lotion, Jackie shares how she's making herself a priority, connecting with her emotions, and living a more present life. Plus, she recommends her favorite natural beauty products of the moment. And yes, there are some f-bombs, tears, and most importantly: a cameo by Chooch the dog! Follow us on Instagram: @Forever35podcast,@katespencer,@doree, Twitter:@forever35pod, and in ourFacebook group( password is "serums"). All products mentioned on the show can be found on our website,Forever35podcast.com. To leave us a voicemail, call 781-591-0390, or you can email us at forever35podcast@gmail.com. This episode is sponsored by: PHLUR - Go to phlur.com and use promo code FOREVER35 to get your first three fragrance samples for 20% off. LOLA - Visit mylola.com and enter promo code FOREVER35 to save 40% on all subscriptions. FabFitFun - Sign up for fabfitfun.com and use promo code FOREVER35 for $10 off your first box. Rothy’s - Get free shipping and free returns and exchanges when you visit rothys.com/forever35. Legacybox - Visit legacybox.com/forever35 for 40% off. Theme music by Riot.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.