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We catch up with the previous guest, Richard De Vere, on the changes to the Anti-Social Engineer business and the state of the industry.  Richard De Vere is the Principal Consultant for The AntiSocial Engineer Ltd, he has an extensive background in penetration testing and social engineering assessments, including ‘red team’ exercises and information gathering assessments for financial institutions and some of the UK’s largest companies. Richard's Site - The AntiSocial Engineer Ltd Richard on Twitter - @antisocial_eng  Don't forget, to get in touch with me either try the contact page of the site or follow me on Twitter, where I can be found at @Jenny_Radcliffe